SAN DIEGO -- Tony Hawk says no.Mario Lopez says yes.Could there be anything more absurd than the worlds most famous skateboarder and an actor who appeared in Saved by the Bell taking opposite sides of the San Diego Chargers long, twisting and increasingly bitter push for a new stadium?Funny thing is, neither Hawk nor Lopez lives in San Diego proper. So they cant vote on Measure C, the ballot initiative that asks the public to approve an increase in the hotel occupancy tax to provide $1.15 billion for a $1.8 billion stadium and convention center annex in the southeast corner of downtown.Hawks anti-C comments, delivered with a dose of humor, were included in Bill Simmons anti-stadium segment on Any Given Wednesday on HBO. Lopezs TV ad in favor of Measure C was filmed in the Los Angeles area -- where the Chargers tried to move last year, angering a fan base thats been loyal since the Bolts moved here in 1961 from Los Angeles.The twisting stadium saga began in 2000, when Ryan Leaf was still the Chargers quarterback. It probably wont reach the finish line even after the votes are counted Tuesday night.Few people think Measure C will get the two-thirds super majority needed to pass. The Chargers, who have long sought a significant public subsidy to replace aging Qualcomm Stadium in Mission Valley, have said privately they hope to get the equivalent of a moral victory if the vote is close to 50 percent. If team chairman Dean Spanos really wants to stay in San Diego, as he keeps saying, hed likely be forced to negotiate a different plan with City Hall, the citys powerful tourism industry, and other stakeholders. None of those entities had a say in the 110-page initiative written by the Chargers.If the measure is badly beaten, Spanos could exercise his option to move to L.A., a concession granted by fellow NFL owners after they rebuffed his plans to build a stadium in Carson with the hated archrival Oakland Raiders as a partner.Is it possible that voters will stand up to the mighty NFL?Mayor Kevin Faulconer remains as optimistic as ever that something will get done on his watch. Hes moved past last year, when the Chargers pressured him to come up with a stadium plan, and then walked away from negotiations to focus on L.A.Look, I think San Diego has been part of the NFL for 50 years, said Faulconer, who clinched a second term in the June primary. San Diegans want the Chargers to stay. San Diegans want a deal that is fair for taxpayers. Those are not mutually exclusive.Heres the disconnect: While many San Diegans love the Chargers and want them to stay, many dont like what they consider a scorched-earth campaign Spanos waged last year in trying to beat Stan Kroenkes Rams to L.A. Spanos, whose team is valued at more than $2 billion, never uttered as much as Im sorry after fellow owners sent him back to San Diego to try again. His lawyers hurriedly wrote Measure C in time to gather enough signatures to qualify for the ballot.The tourism industry opposes both an increase in the hotel tax raised and a convention center annex several blocks from the bayfront convention center. The convention center needs expanding for big clients like Comic-Con, which also opposes Measure C, but attempts to do so have been blocked in court.Faulconer remained mum for months. Several civic and business leaders, led by Qualcomm co-founder Irwin Jacobs, urged the mayor to oppose the project.The mayor finally endorsed C, but only after receiving assurances on certain financial safeguards from Spanos. However, that document is not legally binding.The Padres, who rode an appearance in the 1998 World Series to approval of a new downtown ballpark, want to see the Chargers stay in town, but have major concerns about the Chargers plan. If approved, a new football stadium approximately two blocks away would gobble up most of the Padres surface parking and compete for concerts and other events that swell the Padres coffers.Leading the coalition in favor of Measure C is Jerry Sanders, the president and CEO of the regional chamber of commerce. Interestingly, the Chargers complained for years that they couldnt get help from the city, and Sanders was mayor for a large chunk of that time, from 2005-12.Much like they criticized Faulconer last year, the Chargers have gotten personal toward city councilman Chris Cate and architect Rob Quigley for opposing their massive project. The Chargers took out Facebook ads asking why Cate wanted the team to move to Los Angeles, urging fans to call his office. In an op-ed piece on the website Voice of San Diego, Chargers spokesman Fred Maas called Quigley a small-town undertaker.Polling by City Hall shows Measure C getting less than 50 percent of the vote. Polling done for the hotel industry shows it getting 35 percent yes, with 13 percent undecided. A Chargers consultant would not divulge team-sponsored polling.Obviously it passing gives us the best chance to be here long term, quarterback Philip Rivers said. But Im still hopeful that if it doesnt, then its not the end-all. I dont know that, but certainly thats my hope that if its short of passing that there still has been enough progress made that theres still a way to get it figured out.Rivers, of course, will vote yes.Hawk and Lopez wont have a say.---Follow Bernie Wilson on Twitter at http://twitter.com/berniewilson---Online: http://pro32.ap.org/poll and http://twitter.com/AP-NFL Air Vapormax Clearance . Patrice Bergeron and Daniel Paille scored 20 seconds apart a few minutes after Stamkos was taken off the ice on a stretcher with a broken right leg, and the Bruins beat the Lightning 3-0 on Monday afternoon. Vapormax Flyknit Light Violet . A big centre with all the tools to be an elite player, Johansen paced the Blue Jackets with a standout game Saturday night. He had a goal and two assists for a career-high three points as Columbus beat the New York Islanders 5-2 to snap a five-game losing streak. http://www.vapormaxcheapoutlet.com/clearance-vapormax-plus/vapormax-plus-captain-america.html . 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PITTSBURGH -- Making his return after spending nearly a month on the disabled list to rest his right elbow, Milwaukees Junior Guerra knew he was on a pitch count against the Pittsburgh Pirates on Friday night.When the count ran out earlier than he anticipated, the Brewers expanded bullpen more than picked up the slack.Six Milwaukee relievers shut down the Pirates over the final 5 2/3 innings and Scooter Gennetts RBI-double in the sixth provided all the offense the Brewers needed in a 1-0 victory.A nine-inning shutout using seven pitchers, which is probably only in September baseball, Milwaukee manager Craig Counsell said. But they did great. They all pitched tough innings.Guerra reached his 70-pitch limit with runners on first and second and one out in the third. Jacob Barnes, who was also activated from the disabled list on Friday after dealing with his own right elbow issues, got Jordy Mercer to fly out and struck out opposing pitcher Jameson Taillon.Blaine Boyer (2-3) pitched a scoreless fifth to pick up the win. Tyler Thornburg worked the ninth for his seventh save.Guerra was hardly crisp while allowing five hits and two walks but said he felt healthy.He generally gets stronger as he goes, Counsell said. And he started to kind of get his split going, and then he ran out of pitches.The Pirates swept four games from the Brewers in Milwaukee last weekend to bolster their playoff hopes but have now dropped four straight and failed to get a runner to third base at the beginning of a pivotal 10-game homestand. Pittsburgh remained 2 1/2 games behind St. Louis for the second wild card in the National League.Andrew McCutchen had three of the Pirates seven hits and Taillon was stellar after getting knocked around by the Brewers last week but Pittsburgh couldnt take advantage of the few opportunities afforded by the Brewers.The Pirates best chance to tie the game came in the eighth when Josh Harrison led off with a single. Carlos Torres tried to pick Harrison off first but the ball sailed past Hernan Perez. Harrison raceed to second and kept on going but Perez threw a strike from across the diamond to third, where Jonathan Villar easily applied the tag in plenty of time.dddddddddddd.In a split second, in the thick of things it looked like I was going to be safe, Harrison said. Next thing, I wasnt. Nothing you can really do. If I stop at second and the ball doesnt kick back to him, I could have been at third.TAILLONS TIMEPitching in a meaningful September for the first time as a professional, Taillon put together a solid bounce-back performance after the Brewers touched him for five runs last Saturday. Taillon surrendered three hits and one run over six innings, striking out four without issuing a walk and needing only 76 pitches to get 18 outs.His only hiccup came when he hit Martin Maldonado leading off the sixth. Maldonado moved to second on a groundout and scored when Gennetts drive to deep center was just out of McCutchens reach. The 24-year-old Taillon, just two years removed from reconstructive elbow surgery, said he felt fresher than he has in some time and understands the team is carefully monitoring his workload.If I can help contribute in any way, thats great, the rookie said. Im aware of the standings. Im aware of where were at. Im aware whats at stake.TRAINERS ROOMPirates: P Gerrit Cole did some flat ground work on Friday as he continues his rehab from inflammation in his right elbow. Cole, on the DL since Aug. 25, is hopeful to return this season.UP NEXT:Ivan Nova will try to keep his Pittsburgh renaissance going when he makes his sixth start with the Pirates since being acquired at the trade deadline from the Yankees. Nova is 4-0 with a 2.87 ERA since the coming to Pittsburgh, including a 3-1 win over Milwaukee in his last start. Milwaukees Jimmy Nelson is still searching for the form he had in April and May. The right-hander is 2-10 with a 5.87 ERA in his last 16 starts dating to June 3. ' ' '